Posts Tagged ‘lost boys’

This is my second start at this. I am going to try to winnow it down.  I have two new blogs here, so I hope you will read each. I tried to cut these down to the bare facts.


1. I do not know, nor have I ever known, anyone in the FLDS.

2. IMHO: Anyone who does not buckle up is an idiot. Anyone who does not buckle up his or her child is playing with that child’s life. We have automobile roll over’s a lot in the winding hills of Brown County. When people are buckled, they live, when they are not, they are thrown from the window and die. So, yeah, I believe not buckling your child is abuse. I was two when I was thrown under the dash in an accident.  I sure wish I had been buckled in.  I live with the pain yet. It did not make me stronger, it made me have the weakest neck on earth, but at least I did not die, like so many do. 

3. I believe the FLDS women are brainwashed. I believe the children are innocent. But, you know what?  If the state gives back an abused child, everyone jumps on Child Services the minute they find out the abused child has been killed with abuse in the home they returned them to.  You can’t have it both ways, folks.  There are bad people. Our choice is, do we let them just do anything they want or do we give the government the power to monitor it? I vote for stopping the abuse.

4. Everyone is appalled at Austrian, Josef Fritzl, who locked his daughter in a cellar and fathered her seven children.  That was his religion. But, the whole world is up in arms about it.  From the accounts of people who have lived in the FLDS compound, they are similarly kept from leaving and older men are fathering their children. They just have a bigger, open air cellar.

5. I am NOT saying these children are physically abused. I do not know.

6. Freedom of Choice, is not just about freedom of what religion you are.  Amish are wonderful. They live outside this worlds influence to a great degree but when their children reach adulthood, they are sent out to experience the world so they can make the decision whether to return to their society. They are given Freedom of Choice.

7. Anyone know of an FLDS compound who is allowed that kind of choice? They even kick out a number of boys, at a young age, because they become a threat to the men who want the young girls.

8. What if this were you? What if you grew up this way? We’ll try to imagine that together in my next posting. Give me a few.

9.      Bitter Hinterlands: You made a lot of good points.  I’m sorry to tell you, but there are evil people out there and unless someone watches out for the children, and the aged, and the abused wives and husbands, it will just go on and on and on.  The Courts are there to correct any abuse of the system. 

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FIRST:  If you do not have anything to hide, why are you hiding behind locked gates? If everyone wants to be there and do as you say, why do you have to keep him or her behind locked gates?   Okay, got that off my chest!

For years now, we have read of young boys, the “lost boys”, being kicked out of the compound, which I believe is in the middle of the desert. That should be abuse. We have also heard stories of women escaping because they were not allowed to leave.  These women tell of being given to older men to marry. So, what do you think abuse is?  How would you feel at the age of fifteen to be given to a man three times your age, to marry?

How would you feel, as a young girl with dreams in your heart, to know that the only future for you is to reproduce?  You cannot become a lawyer, doctor, nurse, dentist, dress designer, have any future whatsoever, other than being one of six women, serving one man. From the day a woman, and for that matter, a man is born into the FLDS, your lot in life is set. You have no choice; no free will.

 I would like to point out that the Appellate Court decision applies only to 38 of the roughly 200 parents who challenged the seizure.  Other parents will undoubtedly join in the suit but it is too soon to think this issue is resolved for all of those involved. 

 I would also like to state that had the FLDS not tried to muddy the waters by changing people’s names, hiding records, not recording births and marriages, these 38 adult women might never have been removed or had their children removed.  When the police entered, whether their entry was legal or not, the women could have shown their birth certificates and ID’s, to prove they were adults.  They could have shown their children’s birth certificates and still be sitting in their home, with their children.

Before you yell that we, in America, should not have to show ID’s, stop and think about it. We already do.  You cannot open a bank account without ID.  The mere fact that the FLDS does all they do to hide identities is suspicious.

From AOL.com news: “It also failed to show evidence that more than five of the teenage girls were being sexually abused. 

This would indicate that five of the teenage girls had been sexually abused.  In a normal home environment, all children would have been removed.  They ran into trouble because they treated the FLDS as one big home. The court states this is not correct. The FLDS treats it as one. If the FLDS did not switch wives around, take wives from one husband, evict him, and give the wife to another husband, as we have repeatedly heard in the news,  then perhaps this would also have been isolated to five families.

AOL NEWS:  “FLDS spokesman Rod Parker said sect members feel validated, having argued from the beginning that they were being persecuted for their beliefs.”

And, let us remember that their beliefs ARE illegal. Polygamy is illegal. When this ends, hopefully, we will know whether or not they are, in fact, marrying young girls to older men, which would also be illegal.

<A person can begin a church with any belief they want.  Just because the Church of Pedophilia gets sanctioned as a church, does not mean that it has the right to abuse young children.  Just because the FLDS have convinced these women, under the guise of religion, that they cannot go to heaven without being submissive, being one of six wives, and condemning their children to the same life, without choice should be illegal.  Slavery is outlawed in this country. These poor women have no free choice.   

I challenge the FLDS to unlock their gates and give everyone a choice. 

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