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Like the state of the Nation, the state of my bog could be rather depressing, when I check what my top posts are.  So, here they are in order. 

Top Posts

Viggo Mortensen – 99.9% perfect

Update on Brown County Indiana floods-tornados

Floods in Brown County, Indiana

Chemistry of Photography-Thursday, prints-Friday, Chemistry Painting

Pringles Can Pinhole Cameras

Film Canister Pin Hole Camera

Ben Stein and his FLDS comments

Update on Central Indiana flooding 

And, the meaning of all this is that if it was not for Viggo Mortensen, Flooding, photography and Ben Stein and his idiot comments about the FLDS, I might not have any readers at all. 

All I can say is, thank you again Viggo Mortensen.

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It is time to revisit search terms.  Now, I could go for the thrill here and just give Viggo Mortensen the award, but he is actually not on top.  Even though he is 99.9% perfect and he always seems to be my most popular post. 

 

As of October 30th, my all time most popular search term (not me searching, I assure you – this is for finding my blog) is —- drum roll please —   FLDS.  How interesting that people are so fascinated with these odd, brainwashed/washing people.  I suppose that, within reason, it could be any of us born to this group, indoctrinated by these people and now living a 1700’s style life.  After all, my daughter and eight grandchildren are, although without the wierd hair, but with a head covering. It’s one of those “There but for the grace of God, go I” things.  We see their bun-on-top hairstyle and prairie dresses and their men dressed in modern clothing, and we just have to go: WHY!  Why would anyone let another human being tell them how to dress and how to live their life.  It’s like the men are playing some wierd drinking game.

 

            “Okay, you get a shot if you can make your wife fix her hair in the most outlandish style possible.”

            “Yeah, but I bet you can’t make your wife wear a prairie dress for thirty days.” 

 

My second most popular search is for “viggo mortensen girlfriend.”  I really had no idea I was going to have so much competition for the man.  Back off, ladies.  I know that Lyda at  Pollyanna Rainbow Sunshine and the Needles of Doom likes him.  Who wouldn’t?  He is intelligent, soft spoken, artistic and speaks his mind, ie “No Blood for Oil”.  I admire him and I am sticking to that line too.  Out of 49 search terms, six versions of Viggo Mortensen were used to reach my blog.

 

Third:  camera obscura.    This is so cool!  I love turning a room into a camera obscura and I think it is a great way to teach a class how a camera lens work.  EMT is currently taking black and white darkroom in his photography class and loves it.  I have safe lights, trays and paper but I left my enlarger back in Wyoming.  Unfortunately, moving trucks do not have the expanding propertys of the Weasley’s Ford Anglia. Ford Anglia – Wikipedia, the free encyclopediaWhich is a shame as he loves the darkroom at school and I miss developing.  My other painting links on photography are chemistry, painting with fix and developer, film canister pinhole, Pringles can pinhole,

 

The fourth most popular search I have is flooding; in Nashville, in Brown County, in Indiana, in Lowell and several other variations.  I would have thought that, with elections and all else that has happened in the world, the floods would be low in search terms.  Although, I was emailed some photos from Hessville/Hammond flooding and it was amazing.  The water was up to the underpass. 

 

My other search terms, in order of hits, are:

crazy aunt purl – gotta love that girl   Crazy Aunt Purl

 

bradshaw state jail -  I just knew I should not have allowed that link through, because it often includes other words which shall not be written here.. 

 

david vanvleck – This is my brother, but apparently a lot of other people’s brothers names, or he had way more friends than I knew.  So far the searchers choose to remain anonymous.

 

Million dollar weddings: It’s a wedding year for me with the marriage of two great nieces and the first wedding of my Army grandson.

 

Thong accidents and Daughter’s first thong:  I still think this is just so wrong, in so many ways.  Ehuwww!

 

Reaction about the film labyrinth:  A great film; sticks with you.

 

Wake up in strange land:  Thank you, I don’t feel so alone now.

 

Frozen brownie: Hope they get the book, as it is so funny.  Tell Me Lies  Jennifer Crusie’s Bibliography

 

Windows Mojave stupid: Yes, it is and now if Microsoft would just admit it and send us a disc to put Windows XP on the computer, we would be so eternally a Windows fan but I am fast  considering a Mac.

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I have discovered the most fun thing. Now granted, it is after 10:00pm, in Indiana, and according to Master Daughter, I am not to be held responsible for any Blog I post after 10:00pm.  Even without any dippers of Jose Cuervo, I can find humor. And, the Tag Cloud thingy I clicked to show on my Blog today is hysterical. 

 

Just take random words and put them together. It’s like poetry.  So, I’m reading the tags and just having all kinds of ideas for new Blogs. It’s a font of inspiration.

So, here is a sample of my Tag Clouds:

 

Chicago Chihuahua: Now, are Chihuahua’s different in Chicago than they are in Denver?  I mean, Chihuahua’s in Wyoming have to be black and wear bandanas around their necks. You can’t even buy a pickup truck in Wyoming without proof of black dog ownership.  The Bandana may be a Colorado thing, now that I think of it. Wyomingites don’t want to admit they might have a dog for fun. (No offense, I love Wyoming)

 

FLDS food foolishness: Do I need to type anything here? Maybe something like, food can’t be red: it’s either the mark of the Devil or of blood, so that means you can’t eat apples (unless you get a heathen to peel them) or tomatoes. What about strawberries and watermelon. Is life worth living without strawberries and watermelon?

 

Hone Schooling humor: Gosh, what I could do with this.  Now, all you homeschoolers, I know people who do a fantastic job homeschooling; unfortunately, I know too many people who have no business homeschooling. So, look at yourself and only be offended if you are in the last group and don’t write me nasty letters if you know darn well you are doing an excellent job. But, most of the home schooling parents I met had NO sense of humor. I think I’ll stop there before I say something I’ll regret in the morning and then it will be raining, in Indiana, and I won’t be able to go on and delete it and pretend I didn’t say it and I’ll get hate mail Blogs. 

 

Indiana knitting: Perhaps we could repair our infrastructure that way. When it rains in Indiana you get a party line phone line.  It doesn’t take rain to lose power. That happens once a month whether you want it to or not. The water main is the best; it only breaks every other month.

 

Polygamy pottery: Is that a coffee pot with eight coffee cups? Could it be a set with one large bowl and eight cereal bowls? Or a tea pot and eight teacups?

 

Wisconsin writing: That would be the hilarious Blog my niece would have. I will try to get her to join the family Blog-a-thon when I’m up there for the next family wedding.

Okay, I’m going to bed now. Hope I don’t hate myself in the morning.

 

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It has taken me days to decide what to write about the FLDS and the return of the children. 

First are the problems facing them with this whole issue. The secrecy the FLDS lives by did nothing to help the situation. I would like to think, in an ideal world, that they could have gone in there, checked documents and left with, as the state appeals court agreed, five young girls who they believe were abused.  

I’m sure that Waco was on their mind. Perhaps removing all the children seemed like a safer solution. It is never comfortable to feel that an irate person is in the next room with the shotgun. Been there, done that. Don’t ever want to again, but I would if it meant I could take a child out of an abusive home.

Then again you have Warren Jeffs; found guilty as an accomplice to rape. Of course, the photos of Warren Jeffs romantically kissing his alleged twelve-year-old bride, spoke volumes to me.

If Child Services had not responded to the, now it seems bogus, phone calls, and something happened to the girl, the whole country would be down on their necks. That has happened too many times when children are murdered.

The grandchildren I took from their home, were locked in a closet for a month, beaten a hundred lashes with a horse cinch, forced to eat till they threw up or refused food for up to three days, and thrown out in the middle of the night in winter when they were under thirteen. All of this was in the name of religion. God, says they were born “foolish” so I get to get my jollies off beating them.

For me, the really hard thing is that I was at their home constantly and never suspected the extent of the abuse. I should have seen it. But, children do not talk about the only life they know. They think that every child is treated the same way. I never asked the right question either. I said, “Is everything alright?” I should have said, “When was the last time you ate? Do they ever hit you? With what? Are you locked in a closet?”

Believe me, if you even suspect any kind of abuse, you need to ask the right questions, because the children will not volunteer the answers. It’s their life.

The one boy wants to sue. He wants revenge and I have a hard time telling him not to feel this way. I do tell them that their step-father is not worth their getting in trouble. They all worry about the treatment that their step-sisters and brothers are receiving. I didn’t sleep more than two hours a night for the first three months after I brought them here.

But, there doesn’t seem to be an advocate for them. No one cares, because we took the boys to another state. This was our mistake, we should have just called DFS out.  We had no idea the extent of the abuse until they were here for a while and I started listening to them talk among themselves..   

Somehow, there needs to be an answer. I wish I knew what it was. I wish I could help them more.

 

 

 

 

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Rules that we tell our boys, to get along better in the world:
1. If a cop stops you, be cooperative and polite. They really do not like to be called names, insulted, spit-on, etc. That is a sure way to a ticket or jail.

2. When the Judge asks you a question, respond honestly and completely, and have a lawyer. Answers should be emphatic, “No.” “Yes” or whatever fact is asked for, providing your lawyer says to answer. Answers should not be “Ah, Gee, I don’t know.” This type of answer does not help your case, which I presume you want to win, and it makes you look, guilty as hell. Better to go with pleading the fifth.

So, if a judge asks you something like, “Who have you seen living in the house with you?” A good answer would go like this: “My husband, my two children, my mother.” But Louisa Bradshaw Jesop, doesn’t even seem to know who she lives with. When asked who she saw at the home she shares with her in-laws, she said. “I saw me.”

Perhaps this answer is more realistic than I know. It seems these women are so brainwashed that perhaps they have chosen to live with their heads buried in the sand rather than face the truth of their life. Perhaps it is how they survive.

Disclaimer: The following facts are from news reports. I take no responsibility for the reported ages.

All that Louisa Bradshaw Jessop, could say about who she lived with, how long she had lived at the ranch, and whether any “inappropriate relationships” were going on, was: “I don’t know” or, “I can’t remember right now.”

When they showed her photos of Warren Jeffs kissing young girls, (and the girls are thought to be 12 and 13). She did state that she thought the behavior was inappropriate. Award for understatement of the year. But, you gotta give her credit for saying more than, “I don’t know.”

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Thank you, Grandma in Illinois, for saying it: “Precludes a choice”

This has been my biggest objection to FLDS, right after whatever/if child abuse we suspect is going on. I am trying to be unbiased here and this is an issue that is difficult for me as some of my grandchildren are living in a similar environment. The only saving grace in my grandchildren’s situation is that their father is so boring and uncharismatic, that he can’t persuade a mouse to come out and eat. Hence, he cannot get a following to abuse.

If you take a child and raise that child outside the world it lives in (being the world of 2008), and you indoctrinate it to your beliefs only, never teach or allow that child to think for itself or see any other beliefs, you have brainwashing, not religion.

Other religions teach their beliefs, but FLDS, and my daughter’s family, do not allow their children to know any other way. The men in charge (I am not a “man hater” you cannot deny that it is men in charge of the FLDS.), these men are using religion to preclude choice for others. In this case, women and children.

This is selective breeding for humans. It is another form of trying to create a master race. For some time it has been the Jeffs, father and son, who decide who breeds and when. During World War II, it was Hitler.

They are using the term religion to destroy free will.

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This is a response to H. Millard. If anyone misses the point, as has been commented on, I understand. I do too. Sometimes comments lead to apples and oranges being compared and other times it’s just my brain leading to goodness knows where.

 

The Native Americans were persecuted because the Caucasians wanted their land, not because they abused their children.  In fact, the Native tradition is to cherish and nurture their children.  As still happens, the Caucasians are all about possessions. And, look what a fine mess we have made of this earth. 

 

BTW, I am a Mutt. Dutch and possibly Norwegian, English, perhaps smattering of Native American and Basque.

 

The Jewish people were not allowed to own land, so became diamond merchants.  The Germans then persecuted them because the powers that be were jealous of their wealth. It had nothing to do with circumcising boys or abusing children. After all, you would be hard put to find an American male who isn’t circumcised now. 

 

The Catholics?  Henry VIII wanted more wives and Cromwell wanted more power and see what good that did for Northern Ireland?

 

The Australian Aborigines were persecuted, I think, for the same land reason. They lost their homes, were hunted like animals, poisoned, shot, confined and had their children taken from them and abused; much as the Native Americans.

 

The Roma have contact with their host countries for a livelihood but do not want to integrate too closely, which may cause a loss of their basic beliefs.  Sort of like the FLDS BUT, they treat their children with respect. They were taken as slaves from their homeland and they are persecuted yet. But, they do not abuse children as a tenant of their religion.

 

Yup, it happens. I would hope, in my ever optimistic attitude, that the United Nations would step in, as the Texas Authorities have, and stop the injustices of the world. It’s downright wrong, as long as man has power, it will be like that. Remember, Power corrupts, absolute power corrupts absolutely.  And, that is why we need other powers to stop the corrupt power and Courts to stop the corruption of the other powers.

 

The FLDS has a corrupt power structure. In 1986, Rulon Jeffs abolished the seven-member Priesthood Council and became Absolute Ruler and Dictator. Absolute power corrupts Absolutely.

 

There has to be a line.  Brainwashing and old men marrying young girls is crossing the line, and you’re never going to convince me that a 50 year old man has any right to marry a 15 year old girl for religious or other reasons.  Heck, a 15 year old girl shouldn’t even marry a 15 year old boy.  That’s just stupid.  They are too young to have an idea of who they are.  Ask any 15 year old girl in the country, not in FLDS, if she would want to sleep with a 50 year old man and see what a disgusting face she would make.  Except maybe Viggo Mortensen as Aragorn.  Quite a few would jump at that chance. 

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